Three fates

[amalthia]

I want to chat with someone about this story but probably can't chat until 10pm tonight.

Okay am I the only saying WTF???? I feel the same way now as I did about that one episode of Voyager where all the crew started die/melt? because they were from the Demon planet, and we the audience didn't realize they weren't the real Voyager until halfway through and it was just really fucked up and kind of sad and you just wanted to pretend you never saw that episode.

In Three Fates, I hate that she killed Rodney, Elizabeth is dead, and I think i'm even more upset Elizabeth spaced the ZPMs. Um basically, I'm just upset with the whole turn of events, I don't like stories where my favorite characters die, and I didn't like Elizabeth betraying John and Rodney. I hate seeing John's grief...though I think the memory crystal with Rodney's memory is still around so they can probably re-create the ZPMS....

There are only 7 more parts left and I have no clue what's going to happen next but it's good to remember this isn't the original team. I'm kind of having to look at this as an AU fic because otherwise it'll be too damned depressing.

And again, I'm not happy that I have to wait another 24 hours to find out what happens next.

on the plus side the story is good, otherwise I wouldn't really care at all what happened in the fic. :)

edit: this story has me all emotional. um basically it wasn't until this part that I really started liking this fic. go figure.

Comments

[primad.livejournal.com]

Um basically, I'm just upset with the whole turn of events...

While I suspected that Elizabeth was having issues (ie. That she was hearing the "voice" of Atene when there was no way that she could because she didn't have the gene) I picked up yesterday the parallels to Elizabeth's mention of her schizophrenic cousin Marguerite in the first part....which pretty much confirmed that what Elizabeth was hearing was all in her head and that it didn't bode well.

Eretia confirmed that foreshadowing for what it was.

There's also other evidence that what has happened was foreshadowed. Rodney's dream with Elizabeth killing John, John's fear of not being in control, etc. but I'd have to go back and look for specifics.

There are some other speculations that I'm not sure about like the actual tearing of the universe happened because Elizabeth was the anomaly at the time of accident...but those are more time paradox issues and just rambling thoughts without any proof other than me guessing.

[amalthia]

yeah, it wasn't until this part that I realized maybe she wasn't working with a full deck and it just sucks that neither of the guys noticed or realized before it was too late. It's actually kind of a tragedy.

I really shouldn't get this emotionally invested the characters...it's just too pathetic.

[amalthia]

um I take it back, liking characters is not pathetic. I think with good stories that are this well written it's almost impossible to not care about the characters. I'm still in shock over reading that last part of the fic.

[primad.livejournal.com]

Heh. No, I get you. Heck. I was in the Whedonverse before this and I don't think anyone was rational about the characters in the end.

That being said, I'm far more familiar with Auburn than I am with Eretia...so I came into it with expectations based on A Taste of Apples and Seven Walls and I see that mark psychological wise on the characters here.

That being said...

yeah, it wasn't until this part that I realized maybe she wasn't working with a full deck and it just sucks that neither of the guys noticed or realized before it was too late. It's actually kind of a tragedy.

Personally, I thought she hadn't been working with a full deck since she heard the first "response" Atene...and I think the isolation was a huge factor. I thought she might be on the road to, not recovery, but equilibrium when they were on Athos and she had a role to play but as soon as they were back, the madness returned.

Also, I think Eretia mentioned that because Elizabeth never had an actual psychotic break early on like Rodney and John (neither of them were healthy by any means but at least they were self aware and they had each other as emotional support), there was never any level of introspection on her part. At the point where she might have questioned what was happening to her based on what she knew of her own cousins break with reality, she's looking for the signs in Rodney's behavior not her own.

I always thought it was interesting that they started the story with Atropos, cutting the strings of life...and in this part John laments that no matter what they tried to change, time itself still seemed to push towards a certain path. I'm sure there's a discussion on entropy there. ;)

Anyhoo, it should be interesting to see what that all means and how it applies to Clotho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Fates) in the final parts.

[amalthia]

I honestly thought the AI was talking to her to freak her out and get rid of her. But at the same time...what if the computer really was talking to Elizabeth? I mean there's no proof that the AI didn't have the regular human's best interest at heart, I mean it did lock her in the transporter.

I knew with Auburn writing there was bound to be something depressing coming along, but I was kind of hoping for a happy ending.

[primad.livejournal.com]

I honestly thought the AI was talking to her to freak her out and get rid of her. But at the same time...what if the computer really was talking to Elizabeth?

Maybe...but my guess was that when the computer actually was "talking" to John (or Rodney), it was pure data stream (ie. like the HUD in the puddle jumpers). There was no real emotional motivations attached to it.

And as for any human qualities that were attributed to Atene by John or Rodney were, and this is my guess, like how pilots name their aircraft "she". It really isn't "female" with all the human emotions that entails but one's placed on it by the humans themselves.

I mean there's no proof that the AI didn't have the regular human's best interest at heart, I mean it did lock her in the transporter.

I think that's true. Atene was like a firewall and it/she was meant to protect the information systems of protecting Atlantis and by default the Ancients who lived there...and that meant anyone, whether it be Wraith or any non ATA gene individual (in this case, Elizabeth) would by default be considered a "threat" to it's operation and why she was locked out.

But that doesn't mean that it had the malicious or jealous intent that Elizabeth believed it possessed. There's no evidence that it ever had "evolved" to have human emotions or motivations nor the ability to rationalize (ie. This person is okay despite not having the gene). It was simply doing what it's creators intended.

Now how that translates into Elizabeth hearing voices is we know that with the Marguerite story, we see a parallel of someone slipping into madness...and I think that's what Eretia and Auburn are offering as a clue that Elizabeth isn't really hearing external voices from Atene but they're manifesting themselves in her own head.